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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #140

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If I said to you what is 2 + 2 you know the answer without thinking. If I said 10 + 20 you still know the answer instinctively. But if I said what is 27 x 39 you have to stop, think and work it out.

The difference between the two is how I see my memory, everything I have in memory has to be in that instant recall section. I assume people who can visualise and recall memories that way can tap into the deeper stored memory.

If I ask an imager a question that involves them reaching into their visual memory, they stop and take time to reach an answer, much like you have to think and answer 27 x 39.

So for non imagers or aphants I feel like memories have to be stored in that primary instant memory.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #147

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I have a very different experience...I have vast amounts of data in my head, so much trivia and facts it is like an overflowing library, immediate access is almost impossible. My first response to things is an intuitive response, the data is there but not immediately accessible. Best example I have for this was when I was in the classroom, the first 24 to 48 hours of a new subject area, say switching from Mesopotamia to Ancient Greece, there was a fog over my knowledge, like it was stored so deep in my mind it took a bit for my neurons to realign and then access it. After that period of time, the information was then there, plain as day, like floodgates had been opened, I was able to answers almost any questions my 6th graders could throw at me, but for the first too days I needed the books and prompts to get it going. I am a fool though, I know it is impossible to know everything, but I keep trying, I can't seem to help myself, my curiosity is just so expansive.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #151

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Guys, we all seem extremely different don't we!

It is super interesting.


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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #155

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I love it!
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #180

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It doesn't really work that way for me. A lot of my memories tend to lie forgotten until I get prompts to bring them back up. For example if you asked me what I had for lunch last tuesday, first I'd have to try and identify an event that happened on tuesday (I'm terrible about knowing when things happened), then I'd have to relate that event to other events that I must have done nearby, until I can work it back to lunchtime and figure it out. In this particular case it would actually lead me back to the journey home on monday when my phone ended up out of charge, and because I don't have a watch at work so didn't know how much time was left on my lunch on tuesday so I ended up having to put the scones in my topbox for wednesday, which means I had a cheese sandwich and a fizzy drink.

Not instant at all.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #182

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Yep mine is not instant either, memory is an exercise is detection for me.
I say "I don't know" alot.
I had a boyfriend once that used to get very frustrated because simple recall was out of my depth.

It just isn't a part of my make up.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #193

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See this would explain why my memory of non important things is terrible, I can't get into the non instant memory without someone else reminding me what I am trying to remember, I can't get to that deeper memory on my own.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #201

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I have to make lists or I drown in failure.

Memory is a hilarious concept for me.

I have memory constipation.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #495

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Here I go again time to point out the difference between poor memory and poor recall ability!

If we retain the data in some form, we have in fact encoded it into memory. So many of us seem to have less an issue with memory and more an issue with recall.

Recalling is how we access our memory, I too for example have trouble bringing something to the forefront of my mind without some sort of prod or external stimulus. It is extremely frustrating, but as an intuitive thinker, I know the data is in there somewhere.

One explanation worth pondering, is that since we store information verbally, and that verbal information is not stored the same as visual information, our internal libraries get a bit cluttered, we have to activate a series of neurons in sequence to get to the deeper memories. Recent research has indicated that these less used memories are put into a back up state, requiring neuroplasticity and cognitive re-wiring to gain access to them. If anything then, I would say we have very good memories, so much so that it takes time and effort to sort through and re-establish the neuro-connections required to bring them up for conscious utilization.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #498

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Idk.

I just have a brain full of bees and nutella tbh.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #601

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Not enough bees! I am have not gotten in far enough it seems (My last name sorta looks like buz-bye, but we pronounce it Buz bee, so I kinda like bees!)

As for the nutella part, you would make one zombie a mighty fine meal!

In all seriousness, I can toss out a serious amount of data in very short time, not everyone has the interest, time, or desire to process it. I am ok with that =)
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #603

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Thomas, l have the same experience, exactly. My s.o. remarked today when l didn't recall something, that l am not very observant; at that specific moment, l had stopped at an intersection, taken in the entire surrounding scene, and waited patiently while a pedestrian stepped off the curb and crossed the street in front of us. I quite wryly said to her, "I see what's important to me." If something isn't obviously or instinctively important or significant to me, it may as well be invisible.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #604

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Nathan, l agree about the good memory part. I sometimes amaze myself with the stuff l do remember, mainly because there is so much l don't. I have very little memory of my childhood; only bits and pieces. I attribute this to the lack of ability to visualize childhood (and many more) experiences. Much of my past is just vignettes. Much of this whole phenomenon is difficult to articulate, however, you are doing a very good job in that respect. Thanks.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #625

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Nathan Buzby wrote:

In all seriousness, I can toss out a serious amount of data in very short time, not everyone has the interest, time, or desire to process it. I am ok with that =)

In all seriousness my ADD short attention span and you ASD data distrubution are a funny conbination, imagine us having a conversation! I would probably stop you mid sentence and get you to look at a ladybird I saw under the table or something :)
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #728

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On the upside, I am fascinated by such a wide variety of things I would probably go for it, unless I in the middle of a particularly extensive concept, then I might become a bit frumpy because it can be hard to hold all the points and data in my head at one time =) But it is ok, those things always come back to me and the minute it did, barring sleep hours, I would probably track you down and regale you with my new novel idea haha.
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #860

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It is a pretty big mess already, could be beneficial, a beautiful apocalypse of the mind!
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #924

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monkeymaiden wrote:
Nathan Buzby wrote:

In all seriousness, I can toss out a serious amount of data in very short time, not everyone has the interest, time, or desire to process it. I am ok with that =)

In all seriousness my ADD short attention span and you ASD data distrubution are a funny conbination, imagine us having a conversation! I would probably stop you mid sentence and get you to look at a ladybird I saw under the table or something :)

Imagine my brain with both! At least I didn't ask you to visualise what mine must be like :)
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #940

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nicely stated Thomas! I might try, just for the heck of it...wait that is a nanosecond I won't get back! :silly:
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Memory for me must be instant 2 years 2 months ago #1142

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The desire to be impulsive, followed by the fear of change and the fear of crowds and new situations and the lack of a plan. Sometimes I get the urge to do something then panic about it and end up doing nothing!

I love clarity and exact wording, but my "half arsed" adhd approach causes the clarity to become tiresome to achieve, so I prefer short, emotionless sentences that clarify my point as quickly as possible!
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Memory for me must be instant 1 year 11 months ago #2133

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My memory and recall are very good. I don't recall things unless prompted. These prompts could come from various senses (sound, touch, taste, I see dead people, etc). I can already prompt myself to bring up memories which makes me a very good telling humorous stories with off the cuff analogies that have had some people think I rehease what I say. I'm like "No. You're the one that brought it up." I do go off topic often but given enough time I will finish all of my stories.

With that being said I do tend to put notes and such on my phone. Just like Indiana Jones' father said, "I wrote them down in my diary so that I wouldn't have to remember." It can be surprising that just the act of writing something down can actually help increase memory recall.
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Memory for me must be instant 1 year 10 months ago #2288

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Aquc:
That is EXACTLY how mine works! It is really weird reading a total stranger's description of how my memory works when I have been puzzled by my own thoight processes forever. Thank you.
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Memory for me must be instant 1 year 6 months ago #2845

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My memory is purely verbal (with emotional tinges) and 'relational'. I don't know how to describe it, but I remember the relationships between things, much like Aquc described. I can relate things together, but I can't 'experience' them again.
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Memory for me must be instant 1 year 6 months ago #2875

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This post is really interesting to me, I've always been confused by questions like 'do you think in words or images?' And I've come to realise that I don't quite know how my thoughts work, sometimes they're *slightly* verbal (usually perceptions of a string of key words in a much larger undefined *thought*) but a lot of the time I just *know* the answer as mentioned above, with no verbal or image related thought processes as far as I can tell. The idea of 'thinking in relationships' as Garth mentioned is an interesting one, I can sort of percieve the way my ideas flow as links between concepts... Does anybody else here have very little concrete thought process?
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