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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #299

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I have always found jigsaws really easy to do, I usually find that I will have placed multiple pieces before other people have found even one. But I can't work out how I do it. The pieces just look right from a colour and shape perspective. One of my children also finds jigsaws easy as well but he can visualise.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #302

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I am not amazing at them but I can do them. Mainly because I was taught to get the edges done first and work your way in.

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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #303

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I use the edges and work your way in approach as well, but it is very effective, I do not bother trying to see the entire picture, I just focus on where things connect to each other.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #307

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I love them, I do the edges first and then depending on how many pieces there are it makes me decide on my next strategy.

If it is a BIG puzzle, as I can't visualise the whole image, I will group pieces by colour/shade so I can start to make the larger structures of the puzzle and then go from there.

When I was a child I didn't enjoy them, but I have grown to love them as a way to build a picture infront of my eyes. As I can't draw for s#it it is my only form of art, well unless creating websites is an art form?

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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #308

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Thomas wrote:
I will group pieces by colour/shade

I group by colour too.

I do it when I am playing Lego aswell, I always group things into shape, colour etc...

If I am folding clothes I group by colour also.

Colour is actually very important to me, it helps me stay ontop of things.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #312

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I quite enjoy a jigsaw puzzle from time to time. Surely, it not necessary to visualize the image, I (and I am sure most others) know how a picture should look and can construct the next part of the image from what has been made so far. ie in simple terms, we all know that a car has wheels etc. This is the same with most music we can hum along to a tune we have never heard before because we know what notes/chords would normally come next. If I play C - F - G7 it would sound incomplete if I didn't then finish on C.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #314

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Chris wrote:
Surely, it not necessary to visualize the image...

I would agree Chris, however, we need to build up some knowledge of how this works for people. However, maybe more importantly, to help people without aphantasia to understand how our brains work and that we aren't, and I use this term with great reservation, 'weird'.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #316

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Nothing weird about difference unless folks are taught to treat difference with fear and ignorance...oh yeah, that is a sadly very common human thing to do. Thankfully, through these conversations, we have a chance to de-obfuscate that ignorance, add to collective knowledge. It is like stimming on the autism spectrum, so many people are obsessed with "curing" it, but it is a natural psychomotor function for many people, there is no moral connotation, it is fear and ignorance that is the issue, people perceiving it as a sign of mental instability, and certainly I understand the correlation, autistic meltdowns are no joke, but though they present in the same person, they are not the same thing, and allowing folks on the spectrum to stim, actually decreases the chances of a meltdown. Society gets caught in this loop of labeling things as undesirable and deviant, then they try to "fix" it, all the while undermining a healthy sense of self-esteem, making people feel deficient about things no individual has any control over, so educating, discussing, and advocating for this difference is critical for issue related to self-concept, self-determination, for addressing issues of bullying and the demeaning of difference based on simple ignorance, and the nice thing about ignorance is you can teach people and change hearts and minds.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #317

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I am faster than the average person. I usually do 2-5 pieces to their one. I do the edges first. If im doing the puzzle with someone else I let them pick what they want and I will start on the hardest part. I look at the shades of color first if there is any. I can tell exactly what shape the piece is going to be and usually can pick it out when I see it.
I remember in high school we had a 5 person group challenge. There was about 15 tasks we had to complete. Like shooting free throws, solving math, a 300 piece puzzle. We had 10 minutes to figure out where are strengths were so we could finish first. Right away I knew I wanted to puzzle and worked it the whole time. As the others finished their tasks they could help others. The puzzle was the task that took the longest. I had quite a bit done before anyone joined me. Even when I was surround by 4 people I could put in more than all of them combined. The other group must not had strength in puzzles because they didn't even have half of theirs done when we finished.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #318

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I just copy the picture on the front of the box.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #321

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What about if there was no picture on the box, or you could only see it once and then it was taken away?
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #324

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I don't think I would need the box, I think the box would help expedite the process a bit, but I only need to see it long enough to make a mental note about the outside edges, so blue on top for the sky, green on bottom for the grass, the rest of it I would be able to piece together just fine. It could be fun to try. Now, if you want to mess me up, mix in pieces that don't belong, someone who could retain the image might fare better then, being able to pick them out on the grand scale, where my tendency to focus on very specific segments would be more prone to missing the foreign pieces? Not 100% sure naturally, but seems valid at a glance.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #326

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Thomas wrote:
What about if there was no picture on the box, or you could only see it once and then it was taken away?

I wouldn't even try.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #327

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The box helps me work faster. I don't look at it constantly. I guess it also depend on the puzzle. Scenery or animals would be easier. I have a puzzle that is 100s of vintage candy wrappers. I can look at the scenery or aminals and remember generally where everything goes. The candy wrappers I can't remember. I could work a puzzle without a box but I would take longer.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #329

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Nathan Buzby wrote:
mix in pieces that don't belong, someone who could retain the image might fare better then

Now that would be interesting to try, subtle pieces that are wrong.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #349

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Having seen the box image, I can remember it in order to start the puzzle. I tend to look for the shapes of the pieces and pattern matches. It is difficult for those that aren't weird to appreciate the difference between memory and visualisation.
Eg. My wife can visualize our first car back in 1967, but she can't see the registration number, I can remember it.
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I find the details I remember are key details, like a number plate, or something that might have been broken on the car, or a scratch.

Perhaps this is one of the differences, aphantics are better at small details and key information, visualisers are better at the whole picture, the general information that we would overlook as not important.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #361

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makes sense logically at least Thomas, if we cannot take a snap shot, and most of the time we have to very quickly memorize things, we would pick specific items over the generalized whole. Probably further refined by our interests and differing levels of attention to detail, etc.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #403

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Having a picture means that I can do it faster, but I don't need to have the picture to be able to do a jigsaw. It is just annoying to have incorrect pieces in a jigsaw. On holiday I stayed on a site with multiple cottages and a main building and there were lots of jigsaws there. Someone had put quite a few pieces in random boxes. It was obviously from the colour, shape and texture of the pieces that they were in the wrong box as soon as you picked one up. I suppose if they were from a company that did a range of jigsaws on a theme that it might be a challenge to swap a few pieces around
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #636

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Thomas wrote:
I find the details I remember are key details, like a number plate, or something that might have been broken on the car, or a scratch.

Perhaps this is one of the differences, aphantics are better at small details and key information, visualisers are better at the whole picture, the general information that we would overlook as not important.

I can remember the phone number of the house when i was a child but have no idea what it looked like etc
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #637

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I cam do jigsaws i have to have the picture and i also do sides then middle. i can pick outside pieces much quicker than others and i then will pick out a feature and work on it or do it with colour groups.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 2 months ago #669

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I have never been able to do jigsaws.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 6 days ago #2042

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I love them. I can't set one up at home very often because nothing else will get done. I had been taking my mom to the senior center 3 times a week to exercise and I work on the jigsaw puzzle there. I don't know how I do it, but I'll see an open spot, know I've seen the piece that goes there, and find it. However, I am crappy at Concentration.
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 6 days ago #2043

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I've always been pretty good at them. I prefer having the picture from the front of the box, but, I've gotten in to debates with people that think it should be hidden as looking at it is "cheating". I suspect those people are not like us. :P
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Jigsaws, can you do them? 2 years 6 days ago #2047

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Yes, I can do them quite easily. The most difficult one I've done was of a Jackson Pollock painting - impossible to do without the cover picture and a magnifying glass! But perhaps the aphantasic's focus on detail is a good thing for jigsaws? I use a nickname for each of the 6 basic piece shapes (e.g 'amoeba', 'Aztec man'), and I usually say it aloud (easier to remember) which annoys the hell out of my gf - as I mutter to myself "Light green Aztec man with a dark blue line across the middle" while searching for a piece.
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