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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #5

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What do you think we should include in the FAQ?
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #10

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I'd suggest things like:

How many people have aphantasia?
Recent estimates suggest that 2-3% of the population are affected.

Does it only affect mental vision?
Cases range from only having mental blindness, to having total mental sensory deprivation.

I still dream. Does this mean I don't have aphantasia?
No. Aphantasia specifically refers to the conscious inability to create mental visions.

Does this mean I have no visual memory?
No. We can still recognise people, places and objects meaning their visual memory is intact.

Can Aphantasmics (can we just use that as a term from now on? it saves time) still imagine?
Technically no, as the phrase is created from the same root as image, however we are still capable of creating things in our mind. Some of us have even become artists.

What causes aphantasia?
We don't know. Most of us have had it for as long as we can remember, however there are cases of others getting it later in life. One particularly well documented case is a man who lost his after having surgery for blocked arteries.

If you wanted to add in a jokey tone you could add something like:

Wait, people can/can't actually do that???
Yes. We were shocked too.
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #11

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Brilliant, will work on that now :cheer:
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #12

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Added those to the FAQ, I'm trying to think of more things, will ask my family to ask me questions and see what I get.
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #13

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Faq
CAN IT BE FIXED?
Dunno!

WHAT RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE?
Links

WHERE CAN I FIND OUT MORE?
apart from here there's...
Links to fb group, Wikipedia, Exeter uni research page etc

WHAT SKILLS HAVE APHANTS DEVELOPED
many say they are good at....

I guess some of above will get data from the survey section over time.

Good work Thomas,
Cheers, Linden
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #39

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Some folks may be drawn here out of curiosity, so might want to put in the FAQ something about Hyperphantasia as well? so folks who can visualize in photo-realism? Being the opposite end of the bell curve it seems appropriate.

Also as far as Aquc's imagine recommendation, I would break that down into the connotative vs denotative meaning of the word as the means to express it. So denotatively based on the root world, technically we cannot, but the word itself as applied was probably biased by the individuals own ability to visualize. So the connotative meaning, which is to conceive of things abstractly and not bound by the rules of object reality, we are as capable as others and show a wide range of abilities from low to extremely high?
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #49

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That is a big problem with this area at the moment is the interpretation of the words and the meaning of. I need to be more specific I think :)
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #56

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Well I am a "get bogged down in the small details" sort of guy, if folks provide the more obvious generalized stuff I tend to miss, I am more than willing to review and polish a few things, last thing we would want for example is a stereotype that aphantasiacs are un-imaginative and lacking creativity, damn semantics =)
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #61

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I completely agree, it is hard enough for both sides to "imagine" each others way of thinkning without the wrong ideas being brought up.
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #70

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How about something like:

Does everyone with aphantasia think the same way?
No. Our discussions with each other show that there are many variations to how those of us without mental images think.

Are there things that everyone with aphantasia has difficulty with? (Or can people with aphantasia recognize faces?)
In a recent facebook discussion, it seemed that everyone had difficulty with knowing how people looked when the person is not present. Even very familiar people can be difficult to describe as we can not see a picture of the person in our minds. We rely on describing the "facts" (verbal descriptions) we know about the person.
But once the person is present we vary. Many of us have no problem / are very good at recognizing faces when we see someone. Some other people with aphantasia also have difficulty recognizing faces especially when they see someone out of context. Others tend not to notice people out of context and only recognize them after they are called to their attention.

I also would rather put in more about being able to be creative rather than any technical "image" definition of imagination to avoid be thought of as incapable/dull.
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #460

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don't forget to keep suggesting ideas for the FAQ and how to better engage with people learning about aphantasia
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #1579

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Hello, just found this page. People mention a Facebook page, what is it and I would add that to your faq.
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 months ago #1583

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Hi Chris, Thomas added some links at the bottom of these pages. There's a sister page to this site, the 'Facebook Page' and the original 'Facebook Group' where everyone chats. Regards, Linden
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 1 month ago #1755

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Aquc wrote:
Can Aphantasmics (can we just use that as a term from now on? it saves time) still imagine?
Technically no, as the phrase is created from the same root as image, however we are still capable of creating things in our mind. Some of us have even become artists.

Even technically, I don't think that's accurate. Yes, the word is derived from the same root as image, but there are thousands of words in English whose meaning has migrated away from the root meaning. It's true that one of the meanings of the word 'imagination' is the ability to form mental images, but it's certainly not the only meaning, and I would maintain that it's not the most important either. When we describe someone as having the imagination to do something, we are talking about their ability to innovate, not their ability to form pictures. Similarly with phrases like 'I can't imagine why you would do that', or 'I imagine you must be bored by all this' or 'Use your imagination!' we aren't talking about mental images either.

Please don't even suggest that aphantasics can't imagine!

NB: 'aphantasiacs', or 'aphantasics,' but surely not 'aphantasmics' ?
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 1 month ago #1770

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I'm much with Mike_M here, that it would be very unfortunate to suggest that we cannot imagine. I admit, that I might be biased by that in my mother tongue, there is no direct translation for "imagine", but I have to use words like "think", "believe", "fantasise" in stead - but this might also show as an example that Imagination doesn't need to be about pictures.

Another thing for the FAQ would be the question on facebook some time ago:

"Could it be that us who believe we are Aphantasiac, just have an unrealistic idea of what "an image in front of us is"?"

I believe that in the general case the answer is clearly "No, there are obvious differences between an aphantasiac and someone with a workin minds eye". But maybe someone else can come up with a more eloquent answer?
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 1 month ago #1855

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Mike_M wrote:
Please don't even suggest that aphantasics can't imagine!
Ha! On the topic of creativity: My sister and I are both very different - she is totally arts and drama, whereas I am totally math and science. Her idea of creatively writing involves writing short stories, poetry and plays. My idea of creatively writing involves calligraphy - making the words of others visually beautiful. For me, creating is a process that unfolds on a paper in front of me, and I never fail to be surprised by the outcome because I didn't have any image of what it would look like before I started. But (and this is the frustrating part to explain to visualizers) I KNOW when I see the result whether it was what I imagined it would be. Where "imagined" is a mental list of what I was planning the outcome to be, not a picture of what it would look like.

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Aquc wrote:
Can Aphantasmics (can we just use that as a term from now on? it saves time) still imagine?

What causes aphantasia?
We don't know. Most of us have had it for as long as we can remember, however there are cases of others getting it later in life. One particularly well documented case is a man who lost his after having surgery for blocked arteries.

I like "Aphantasmics" as a formal was of giving the group a name. Informally within the forum and in conversation I just go with "Aph". As in, those with Aph have little to no minds eye but they are all awesome people.

I hate to say it but brain injuries can be a cause of Aph.

Source: www.braindecoder.com/aphantasia-newly-re...-eye-1236434508.html
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Suggestions for FAQ section 2 years 2 weeks ago #1980

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How is it that someone with Aphantasia can describe a person on situation to you without seeing it?

What is the difference between recalling memories to describe something versus visualizing it?

You get the idea.

I never ever realized I have this until I just read a Facebook post. Blew my mind.
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I'm not sure how it works for others with aphantasia, but I think of it as 'verbally' encoding memories, while people without aphantasia usually 'visually' encode memories. So the average person would store an image in their head, and then later they can bring it back up and describe the image they see, and that's how a lot of their memory works. But aphantastics (or at least I) encode information as "short brown hair, light skin, green eyes" etc, and then I can (hopefully) recall that information later.

Also, I can conceptualize shapes, so I can remember much better where things were and how things were shaped, but I don't remember any colors or details beyond what I verbally encoded.
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